[afnog] afnog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 7

Global One Solutions malabow at gmail.com
Tue Oct 12 18:51:13 UTC 2010


Mark,

You hit this on the head, Most ISP only listen communities from customers
and pass community to customer, I have seen in the US where they strip
community from their Peering. I would also advise people to take advantage
community in their internal network. One can tag community based on
region/city/ etc, so when troubleshooting they know the route based on
community. I am a big fan on community, NOT only no-export.


Thanks,


On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:00 AM, <afnog-request at afnog.org> wrote:

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>   3. Re:  Thank you - route views (Frank Habicht)
>   4.  Nomination period for the NRO-NC election from the AfriNIC
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>   5.  Laurence GAILLET (Yahaya Wara)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:43:50 +0800
> From: Mark Tinka <mtinka at globaltransit.net>
> To: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>
> Cc: afnog <afnog at afnog.org>
> Subject: Re: [afnog] bgp communities - please
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> On Monday, October 11, 2010 01:40:10 pm Frank Habicht wrote:
>
> > I wanted to request that you all enable or set the
> > sending of BGP communities on all your iBGP sessions.
>
> Sadly, this is an artifact of classic IOS, where the BGP
> community capability needs to be specifically turned on.
>
> More sane code like IOS XR and JUNOS don't have this
> restriction. It can be a real PITA because not turning this
> on on even just one router can be a real tail-chaser.
>
> I believe a number of folk have requested Cisco to revise
> this so BGP communities are enabled by default, but hey,
> planes don't have bad landings - it's just the asphalt
> making contact with them :-).
>
> > example reason: if someone sends you a prefix with
> > no-export community then they really hope that you don't
> > advertise it to your upstreams...
> >
> > And yes: real stuff observed that did real unwanted
> > breaking.
>
> Two things to consider when doing this:
>
>        1. Best to co-ordinate the transmission of BGP
>           communities with your upstreams. Several
>           upstreams will either strip the BGP communities
>           you pass on in updates, rewrite them, or both. If
>           you pre-negotiate this relationship with your
>           upstream, you won't miss those 3AM calls when
>           they suddenly decide to do a network clean-up.
>
>        2. Remember that the NO_EXPORT community affects ALL
>           eBGP sessions within your upstreams network.
>           While this will prevent your prefixes from being
>           announced to their transits/peers, it will also
>           block them from being announced to their own
>           (small) customers. It is possible you may not
>           want your upstream's transit providers to "hear"
>           your routes, but you may want their small
>           customers to.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
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> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:36:47 -0700
> From: John Kemp <kemp at network-services.uoregon.edu>
> To: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [afnog] Thank you - route views
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> Happy to see the bgplay at RouteViews continues to be a
> useful tool.  A couple of other tools people might be
> interested in...
>
> 1. CYCLOPS
>
> You can register your prefix to be watched for free, and
> receive notifications upon changes.  (We feed data into Cyclops.)
> There are also some nice ASN and DNS lookup tools, as well as
> some topology visualizations and data history lookups there.
>
> http://cyclops.cs.ucla.edu/
>
> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog43/abstracts.php?pt=NTkmbmFub2c0Mw==&nm=nanog43
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> 2. HISTORICAL BGPLAY
>
> Ripe Labs has also worked on an historical version of BGPlay.
> Info on that can be found here:
>
> http://labs.ripe.net/Members/csquarce/content-historical-bgplay
>
> John Kemp (kemp at routeviews.org)
> RouteViews Engineer
> help at routeviews.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:25:57 +0300
> From: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>
> To: kemp at network-services.uoregon.edu
> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [afnog] Thank you - route views
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> On 10/11/2010 9:36 PM, John Kemp wrote:
> > 1. CYCLOPS
> >
> > You can register your prefix to be watched for free, and
> > receive notifications upon changes.  (We feed data into Cyclops.)
> > There are also some nice ASN and DNS lookup tools, as well as
> > some topology visualizations and data history lookups there.
> >
> > http://cyclops.cs.ucla.edu/
> >
> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog43/abstracts.php?pt=NTkmbmFub2c0Mw==&nm=nanog43
>
> and i already jumped onto it - and recommended to others.
>
> now first question:
> If you or I announce a certain prefix ( a /24 contained within a bigger
> announcement ) to upstream with 'no-export' ...
> ... would you expect this prefix to show up in Cyclops?
>
> it did.
>
> Frank
>
> PS: looking glass of upstream confirm they have the 'no-export'.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:41:05 +0300
> From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>,
>        africann <africann at afrinic.net>
> Cc: discuss <discuss at afrispa.org>, afnog <afnog at afnog.org>
> Subject: [afnog] Nomination period for the NRO-NC election from the
>        AfriNIC region still open till 20:00UTC on 16/10/10
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> apologies for cross-posting
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>
> Dear All,
>
> Please note that there are 4 more days until the deadline:
>
> http://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2010/000672.html
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> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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