[afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)

Felix Alcantara speakz at speakz.org
Mon Mar 13 19:13:17 EAT 2006


Badru,
 
Yes can be true what you say about safe internacional bandwidth, and maybe can be better for you, but if you are interested just tell me.
 
And about that last guy who is saying that im an Abuser?? are that guy nut or what?
 
Félix Alcántara
1-(809)-854-9853
E-mail: speakz at speakz.org
Speakz @IRC

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De: afnog-bounces at afnog.org en nombre de Badru Ntege
Enviado el: Lun 13/03/2006 11:57 a.m.
Para: 'Brian Candler'
CC: afnog at afnog.org
Asunto: Re: [afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)



Thanks Brian

In other words a small or even big (which is relative) african ISP with high
Bandwidth and power costs should see little or no benefit in going down this
road.

I just thought we need to have issues like these highlighted I see no
business case infact if an IRC server is needed for customer support I
believe we can build local services and save our costly international
bandwidth.

Thanks again for the response. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Candler [mailto:B.Candler at pobox.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:08 PM
> To: Badru Ntege
> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:50:27PM +0300, Badru Ntege wrote:
> >    any learned comment on this posting should one send to
> the trash bin
> >    or should it be considered.
>
> The guy is asking for:
>
> * free bandwidth, power and hosting
> * permission to run a service which is notoriously prone to
> attracting DoS
>   attacks
>
> In return, you are permitted to show one advertisement to
> each of *his* customers when they connect. If they connect
> with a GUI IRC client, they might not even see this.
> Furthermore, his customer base may not be suitable targets
> for your marketing.
>
> If it were me, I'd make him pay for colo and bandwidth just
> like any other customer; if he has a viable business model
> then he can find the money for that. Even if I took him on as
> a fully paying customer, I'd still be concerned about
> monitoring his IRC activities and the extra workload that
> fending off DoS is likely to give you.
>
> Feel free to subsidise his business if you wish, but I
> personally can't see a particularly good reason to do so.
> Perhaps if you already have a large local base of IRC users,
> who are using some distant IRC server, they might benefit
> from having a local one. But equally you might find that most
> of your customers are using MSN, AIM, Yahoo etc, in which
> case there's no point.
>
> Here's another way to think about it: if one of your
> competitors took him up on his offer, would this be
> detrimental to your own business?
>
> And another: if you took the cost of supplying him with
> bandwidth, colo and management and treat it as a recurring
> marketing expense, could you find more effective ways to
> spend that marketing money locally?
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian.


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