Re: Africa spends US$400 million on internal traffic

[Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>]

      On Thu, 15 May 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
    > > http://www.gersterconsulting.ch/fs/fs_news_graph.html
    > and you take it seriously?

Oh, Randy, stop quibbling.  Of course nobody takes that particular study
seriously...  It presents its results in pictures of dimes, for god's
sake.  I know I'm not qualified to pin a good number on the actual dollar
cost of the reverse-subsidy back to Europe and North America.  But we can
all see traceroutes like this one:

traceroute to mfd.mu (61.11.224.85), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.135.2 (192.168.135.2)  146.488 ms  127.464 ms  126.107 ms
 2  192.168.135.1 (192.168.135.1)  123.169 ms  136.848 ms  138.089 ms
 3  192.168.35.5 (192.168.35.5)  134.882 ms  138.033 ms  127.003 ms
 4  s10-0-1.pasar1.pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.250.105)  362.918
 5  p0-0.pasbb1.pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.128.69)  361.316 ms
 6  p4-0.pascr3.pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.241.162)  361.59
 7  p9-0.pascr1.pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.129.61)  364.396
 8  p12-0.nykcr2.new-york.opentransit.net (193.251.241.134)  415.549 ms
 9  p9-0.nykcr1.new-york.opentransit.net (193.251.241.213)  413.089 ms
10  193.251.241.222 (193.251.241.222)  446.22 ms  910.711 ms  400.938 ms
11  p12-0.oakcr1.oakhill.opentransit.net (193.251.242.254)  413.399 ms
12  p3-0.oakcr2.oakhill.opentransit.net (193.251.243.82)  419.022 ms
13  so4-0-0.ashbb2.ashburn.opentransit.net (193.251.243.118)  417.669 ms
14  teleglobeus.gw.opentransit.net (193.251.251.2)  421.241 ms  437.115 ms
15  if-10-0.core1.washington.teleglobe.net (207.45.223.1)  424.54
16  if-4-0.core2.washington.teleglobe.net (207.45.223.122)  423.781
17  if-2-0.core2.newark.teleglobe.net (64.86.83.213)  416.72 ms  430.971
18  if-1-0.core3.newyork.teleglobe.net (64.86.83.165)  429.848 ms  420.403
19  if-8-0.core2.losangeles.teleglobe.net (64.86.83.174)  502.14 ms
20  if-12-0-0.bb1.losangeles.teleglobe.net (207.45.220.99)  504.1 ms
21  if-2-0-1.bb1.hongkong.teleglobe.net (64.86.81.178)  671.058 ms
22  64.86.126.10 (64.86.126.10)  658.757 ms  662.946 ms  671.486 ms
23  61.11.235.210 (61.11.235.210)  665.198 ms  657.917 ms  669.702 ms
24  61.11.227.118 (61.11.227.118)  1299.76 ms  1176.43 ms  1190.9 ms
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  61.11.224.82 (61.11.224.82)  1566.65 ms  1473.2 ms  1339.51 ms
29  61.11.224.85 (61.11.224.85)  1419.79 ms  2304.63 ms  1483.98 ms

...and know that _that_ packet crossed Port Louis the expensive way.
Every single one of those hops was paid for, and they were all paid for by
the guys on the ends, not the ones in the middle.  Does it add up to
US$400M?  The number doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  Would I use it
myself?  Not without some data to back it up.  Am I running around trying
to collect that data?  Yes.

What do you want in the mean-time?  For nobody to complain about being
ripped off, until they can quantify it to the last cent?

                                -Bill



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