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Re: Encapsulation X25 over IP



Brian,

Like I said, they may not know how and as a result they have to 
listen to you. If you justify it and show them what to do and they 
still say they don't then it's really because they simply don't want.
There is no question of appreciation here. We have all had our IP 
problems in the past and we know what some telco's are like.

Cheers,



> Philip & Antonio,
> 
> Your comments show a lack of appreciation of the situation on the
> ground in some of the "recently connected" African countries. In most
> cases the Telco, who provides the entire country's internet access
> doesn't have personnel who are familiar with Internet policies and
> practices. Most of the time, some well wishing "internet guru" or
> consultant from a company like C&W came and set up their initial
> Internet connectivity and left them enjoying the benefits of "being
> connected". Of course, this was probably followed by a mad rush by all
> the "internet hungry" citizens of the country which then led to
> capacity problems and, like Aboubacar's problem, the need to grow as
> an ISP.
> 
> Most of the time the Telco staffers will not listen to the ISP who
> wants to instruct them on how they can get more address space from
> their upstream (or even from one of the RIRs). In summary, if you can
> find a way of getting address space without going through the Telco,
> get it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Philip Smith wrote:
> 
> > Hi Aboubacar,
> > 
> > Your upstream ISP should not be denying you address space if you can
> > justify your requirements. There is NO shortage of IPv4 address
> > space, so the sooner that some people stop pretending there is a
> > shortage the better. (Distribution of IPv4 address space is
> > carefully documented by APNIC, ARIN and RIPE NCC, but  there is no
> > shortage.)
> > 
> > If your upstream refuses to give you address space even if you can
> > justify it, you have two courses of action. As you observed, Guinea
> > comes in under the RIPE NCC region - so apply to become a Local
> > Internet Registry and you will receive your own address space to
> > work with as you require. The second course of action you have is to
> > change your upstream ISP (harder to do, but you after all are the
> > customer, and they should pay attention to your requirements).
> > 
> > I hope this helps!
> > 
> > philip
> > --
> > 
> > At 08:23 11/10/00 +0000, Antonio Godinho wrote:
> > >Regarding your third problem, the way I see it, your telco is
> > >either not telling the truth or simply does not know how things
> > >work. They can get IP's from C&W as long as they justify them, so
> > >if you need those IP's and can account for their use then that
> > >should be enough for them to get the IP's.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello every one,
> > > >
> > > > I am working for a private isp in conakry Guinea. I have three
> > > > technical topics I would like to share with every one. The first
> > > > topic: Encapsulation X25 over IP
> > > >     One of my client (a bank) has its branches interconnected by
> > > >     X.25
> > > > from Telco. These links are not working to their satisfaction.
> > > > As we have
> > > >  installed wireless links between the branches of the bank and
> > > >  the head
> > > > office, the client wants that the X.25 link pass via the
> > > > wireless system, doing what they call "encapsulation of X25 over
> > > > TCP/IP." It seems that the cisco routers with the module XOT can
> > > > do this.
> > > >    What do you think? What do you recommend to me ? What is the
> > > >    module
> > > > XOT for cisco routers ? What types of cisco routers do this? Do
> > > > I need a specific version of  IOS?
> > > >
> > > > The second topic:   Monitoring wireless connection
> > > >     For my wireless dedicated customers, I want monitor their
> > > >     traffic.
> > > > What can I do for that? The third:  IP addresses I have a /26
> > > > class C from  my upstream provider (the telco) and I know it is
> > > > the same case for many ISPs in Africa. This /26 class C is not
> > > > enough for our activities. I need more. The Telco can not
> > > > provide me the IP addresses their  IP addresses are from MCI
> > > > (now cable & wireless) . How can I proceed to have more IP
> > > > addresses as I am a private ISP connected to the Telco noc? I
> > > > know guinea is covered by the RIPE NCC.
> > > >
> > > >     Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with me.
> > > >
> > > > Aboubacar.
> > > >
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > ====== ======================
> > > >
> > > > Aboubacar   KOUROUMA
> > > > Chief of Internet Department
> > > > ETI sa
> > > > Internet and Data processing technologies company in Guinea ! BP
> > > > 5675 Conakry - République de Guinée
> > > >
> > > >  at : akourouma at eti.net.gn
> > > > Web: http://www.eti-bull.net
> > > > Standard: (224) 41.41.01 / 41.43.31
> > > > Fax: (224) 41.46.19
> > > > Hot-line Internet  : (224) 45.32.60
> > > > GSM:
> > > >     Inside Guinea:       (011) 21 65 59 / (012) 67 36 30
> > > >     Outside Guinea:
> > > >   From US: (011-377 98) 67 36 30 / (224-11) 21 65 59
> > > >   From other country: (377 98) 67 36 30 / (224-11) 21 65 59
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Antonio Godinho
> > >B.Sc., MCP, MCP+Internet, MCSE
> > >Address:Av. Julius Nyerere 947 3rd floor esq
> > >Maputo - Mozambique
> > >Phone  : 258-1-490860
> > >e-mail : ANTONIO at nambu.uem.mz
> > >
> > >
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Antonio Godinho
B.Sc., MCP, MCP+Internet, MCSE
Address:Av. Julius Nyerere 947 3rd floor esq 
Maputo - Mozambique
Phone  : 258-1-490860
e-mail : ANTONIO at nambu.uem.mz

                     

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