[afnog] afnog Digest, Vol 71, Issue 2

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>   1.  WEEKLY BGP REPORT FOR  AfriNIC v4 PREFIXES
>      (airrs-report at afrinic.net)
>   2. Re:  [NANOG] NREN Network Design (Phil Regnauld)
>   3. Re:  [NANOG] NREN Network Design (Tarig Yassin Adam)
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> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:11:55 +0200
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> Subject: [afnog] WEEKLY BGP REPORT FOR  AfriNIC v4 PREFIXES
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> BGP Report for IP block : 41/8 , 197/8, 196/8
> DATE : 2010-02-01
>
> BGP Report Perspective :  AS40387
> Number of routing entries :  298785
>
> Allocation and whois data from RIRs statistics files and whois  
> databases
> BGP data from : routeviews project (http://www.routeviews.org)
>
> Number of prefixes allocated from 41/8 :  438
> Minimum allocation size from 41/8 :  /22
> Minimum prefix size from 41/8 in routing table :  /24
>
> Number of prefixes allocated from 197/8 :  2
> Minimum allocation size from 197/8 :  /22
> Minimum prefix size from 197/8 in routing table :  /22
>
> Number of prefixes allocated from 196/8 :  536
> Minimum allocation size from 196/8 :  /24
> Minimum prefix size from 196/8 in routing table :  /24
>
> Total Number of IP address allocated from AfriNIC pool(41/8,  
> 197/8) : 15179776
> Percentage of IP address allocated from AfriNIC pool(41/8, 197/8) :  
> 45.2392578125 %
> Total Number of IP address allocated from AfriNIC legacy  
> pool(196/8) : 4054784
> Percentage of IP address allocated from AfriNIC legacy pool(196/8) :  
> 24.1683959960938 %
> Total Number of IP address from AfriNIC pools announced to  
> Internet : 14851584
> Percentage of IP address from AfriNIC pools announced to Internet :  
> 44.3 %
>
> Summary ( 41/8 )
> *******
>
> Prefixes allocated but not seen in the routing table
> (Exact match and more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 87 Prefixes
>
>                 41.32.0.0/12  41.48.0.0/13  41.56.0.0/16   
> 41.57.0.0/16  41.64.0.0/15  41.66.0.0/18
>                 41.66.64.0/18  41.68.0.0/15  41.72.0.0/18   
> 41.72.64.0/19  41.72.96.0/19  41.72.128.0/19
>                 41.72.160.0/19  41.72.192.0/19  41.72.224.0/19   
> 41.73.0.0/19  41.73.32.0/19  41.74.0.0/20
>                 41.74.16.0/20  41.74.32.0/20  41.76.0.0/21   
> 41.76.8.0/21  41.76.16.0/21  41.76.24.0/21
>                 41.76.32.0/21  41.76.40.0/21  41.77.224.0/21   
> 41.77.248.0/21  41.78.0.0/22  41.78.4.0/22
>                 41.78.8.0/22  41.78.12.0/22  41.78.16.0/22   
> 41.78.20.0/22  41.78.24.0/22  41.78.28.0/22
>                 41.78.32.0/22  41.78.36.0/22  41.78.40.0/22   
> 41.78.48.0/22  41.78.56.0/22  41.78.60.0/22
>                 41.78.64.0/22  41.78.68.0/22  41.79.232.0/22   
> 41.79.240.0/22  41.79.248.0/22  41.88.0.0/16
>                 41.89.0.0/16  41.90.0.0/16  41.91.0.0/16   
> 41.92.128.0/17  41.94.0.0/16  41.95.0.0/16
>                 41.132.0.0/14  41.137.0.0/16  41.138.92.0/22   
> 41.138.160.0/19  41.138.240.0/20  41.139.0.0/18
>                 41.139.64.0/18  41.189.64.0/19  41.190.228.0/22   
> 41.190.248.0/22  41.191.88.0/22  41.191.96.0/22
>                 41.191.128.0/18  41.191.192.0/21  41.191.208.0/21   
> 41.191.216.0/21  41.202.128.0/19  41.203.32.0/19
>                 41.206.224.0/19  41.216.224.0/22  41.216.236.0/22   
> 41.216.240.0/20  41.217.196.0/22  41.217.208.0/22
>                 41.217.212.0/22  41.221.112.0/20  41.222.120.0/21   
> 41.222.212.0/22  41.223.12.0/22  41.223.48.0/22
>                 41.223.88.0/22  41.223.96.0/22  41.223.168.0/22
>
> Prefixes seen in the routing table
> (Exact match or more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 3033 prefixes were seen in routing table with the following  
> distribution
>
> *                  1878 originated by AS in AfriNIC service region  
> (AS and number of prefixes originated)
>
>                 AS11259 (1)  AS11845 (2)  AS12091 (2)  AS14988 (1)   
> AS15399 (3)  AS15475 (8)  AS15706 (23)  AS15964 (25)
>                 AS16058 (6)  AS16284 (3)  AS16637 (32)  AS17400 (4)   
> AS18931 (2)  AS19232 (1)  AS19711 (3)  AS20484 (1)
>                 AS20858 (1)  AS20928 (3)  AS21003 (9)  AS21280 (1)   
> AS22355 (6)  AS23889 (21)  AS24835 (1)  AS24863 (511)
>                 AS25163 (5)  AS25250 (1)  AS25543 (3)  AS25576 (3)   
> AS25818 (1)  AS28683 (5)  AS28698 (1)  AS2905 (15)
>                 AS29091 (26)  AS29544 (1)  AS29571 (97)  AS29614  
> (17)  AS29918 (1)  AS29975 (62)  AS30619 (10)  AS30985 (1)
>                 AS30990 (3)  AS30995 (2)  AS30998 (17)  AS31065 (3)   
> AS31810 (4)  AS31856 (4)  AS32017 (3)  AS32398 (7)
>                 AS32437 (1)  AS32653 (1)  AS33567 (1)  AS33762 (16)   
> AS33763 (3)  AS33765 (1)  AS33770 (13)  AS33772 (4)
>                 AS33774 (22)  AS33776 (120)  AS33783 (8)  AS33785  
> (3)  AS33788 (1)  AS36864 (1)  AS36865 (4)  AS36866 (6)
>                 AS36867 (4)  AS36874 (1)  AS36877 (5)  AS36879 (1)   
> AS36887 (1)  AS36888 (1)  AS36890 (1)  AS36896 (4)
>                 AS36898 (15)  AS36899 (1)  AS36900 (1)  AS36905 (1)   
> AS36908 (2)  AS36909 (1)  AS36911 (10)  AS36912 (4)
>                 AS36913 (1)  AS36914 (3)  AS36915 (27)  AS36916 (3)   
> AS36917 (8)  AS36918 (2)  AS36920 (8)  AS36921 (2)
>                 AS36923 (3)  AS36925 (30)  AS36926 (1)  AS36928 (4)   
> AS36930 (1)  AS36934 (1)  AS36935 (9)  AS36936 (1)
>                 AS36937 (3)  AS36938 (1)  AS36939 (3)  AS36943 (8)   
> AS36945 (1)  AS36947 (15)  AS36950 (3)  AS36951 (1)
>                 AS36957 (4)  AS36959 (4)  AS36960 (11)  AS36961 (1)   
> AS36962 (1)  AS36963 (3)  AS36965 (1)  AS36967 (1)
>                 AS36968 (1)  AS36969 (8)  AS36970 (1)  AS36972 (1)   
> AS36974 (1)  AS36977 (12)  AS36979 (1)  AS36981 (1)
>                 AS36983 (3)  AS36985 (1)  AS36986 (1)  AS36988 (2)   
> AS36989 (13)  AS36990 (4)  AS36991 (1)  AS36992 (25)
>                 AS36993 (2)  AS36994 (18)  AS36996 (10)  AS36997  
> (9)  AS36998 (2)  AS36999 (3)  AS37000 (3)  AS37001 (2)
>                 AS37002 (3)  AS37004 (5)  AS37006 (3)  AS37009 (1)   
> AS37010 (1)  AS37011 (1)  AS37012 (2)  AS37013 (2)
>                 AS37014 (1)  AS37018 (4)  AS37019 (9)  AS37020 (1)   
> AS37023 (2)  AS37024 (1)  AS37025 (2)  AS37026 (2)
>                 AS37028 (1)  AS37029 (1)  AS37030 (2)  AS37031 (6)   
> AS37032 (4)  AS37034 (4)  AS37035 (2)  AS37037 (2)
>                 AS37039 (1)  AS37040 (1)  AS37043 (1)  AS37044 (9)   
> AS37047 (1)  AS37048 (1)  AS37049 (1)  AS37054 (42)
>                 AS37056 (2)  AS37057 (7)  AS37061 (19)  AS37063 (3)   
> AS37065 (1)  AS37066 (4)  AS37069 (2)  AS37071 (2)
>                 AS37073 (1)  AS37074 (1)  AS37075 (2)  AS37076 (1)   
> AS37077 (1)  AS37080 (1)  AS37083 (1)  AS37084 (11)
>                 AS37094 (2)  AS37097 (1)  AS37101 (4)  AS37103 (6)   
> AS37104 (2)  AS37105 (3)  AS37109 (1)  AS37110 (1)
>                 AS37113 (11)  AS37120 (1)  AS37122 (1)  AS37123 (2)   
> AS37124 (2)  AS37125 (1)  AS37126 (1)  AS37133 (4)
>                 AS37135 (1)  AS37136 (1)  AS37140 (4)  AS37141 (1)   
> AS37143 (4)  AS37148 (1)  AS3741 (11)  AS5713 (9)
>                 AS6713 (99)  AS9129 (16)
>
> *                  1155 originated by AS not in AfriNIC service  
> region (AS and number of prefixes originated)
>
>                 AS10434 (1)  AS12392 (1)  AS12491 (18)  AS12654 (1)   
> AS15808 (10)  AS16422 (15)  AS17175 (13)  AS17813 (2)
>                 AS20294 (1)  AS21042 (3)  AS21174 (1)  AS22351 (34)   
> AS24399 (1)  AS24691 (2)  AS25139 (1)  AS25395 (6)
>                 AS25747 (1)  AS2609 (18)  AS26452 (2)  AS29032 (9)   
> AS29259 (1)  AS29286 (6)  AS29465 (7)  AS29548 (3)
>                 AS30844 (1)  AS32034 (1)  AS34444 (3)  AS34947 (5)   
> AS35074 (4)  AS35091 (5)  AS38891 (4)  AS3986 (2)
>                 AS41951 (1)  AS44933 (1)  AS5377 (3)  AS5400 (2)   
> AS5511 (12)  AS6453 (14)  AS8346 (4)  AS8452 (928)
>                 AS8513 (4)  AS8657 (3)  AS8668 (1)
>
> Detail (http://airrs.afrinic.net/bgp/reports.html/bgp.reports.2010-02-01-41.0.0.0.html 
> )
>
>
>
> Summary ( 197/8 )
> *******
>
> Prefixes allocated but not seen in the routing table
> (Exact match and more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 0 Prefixes
>
>
> Prefixes seen in the routing table
> (Exact match or more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 2 prefixes were seen in routing table with the following distribution
>
> *                  0 originated by AS in AfriNIC service region (AS  
> and number of prefixes originated)
>
>
> *                  2 originated by AS not in AfriNIC service region  
> (AS and number of prefixes originated)
>
>                 AS12654 (1)  AS23456 (1)
>
> Detail (http://airrs.afrinic.net/bgp/reports.html/bgp.reports.2010-02-01-197.0.0.0.html 
> )
>
>
>
> Summary ( 196/8 )
> *******
>
> Prefixes allocated but not seen in the routing table
> (Exact match and more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 152 Prefixes
>
>                 196.1.7.0/24  196.1.74.0/24  196.1.81.0/24   
> 196.1.92.0/24  196.1.93.0/24  196.1.94.0/24
>                 196.1.95.0/24  196.1.96.0/24  196.1.97.0/24   
> 196.1.98.0/24  196.1.99.0/24  196.1.101.0/24
>                 196.1.116.0/23  196.1.118.0/24  196.1.128.0/24   
> 196.1.129.0/24  196.1.137.0/24  196.3.58.0/23
>                 196.3.90.0/24  196.3.92.0/23  196.3.107.0/24   
> 196.3.108.0/24  196.3.109.0/24  196.3.148.0/24
>                 196.3.149.0/24  196.3.150.0/24  196.3.154.0/24   
> 196.3.160.0/24  196.4.77.0/24  196.4.80.0/24
>                 196.4.81.0/24  196.4.82.0/24  196.4.85.0/24   
> 196.4.94.0/24  196.4.96.0/24  196.4.98.0/24
>                 196.4.99.0/24  196.4.162.0/24  196.4.166.0/24   
> 196.4.167.0/24  196.4.189.0/24  196.4.200.0/20
>                 196.4.249.0/24  196.6.101.0/24  196.6.102.0/24   
> 196.6.173.0/24  196.6.201.0/24  196.6.248.0/24
>                 196.6.249.0/23  196.6.252.0/24  196.6.253.0/24   
> 196.6.254.0/24  196.10.1.0/18  196.10.61.0/18
>                 196.10.96.0/24  196.10.102.0/23  196.10.105.0/24   
> 196.10.142.0/21  196.10.149.0/24  196.10.200.0/24
>                 196.10.201.0/24  196.10.202.0/24  196.10.225.0/24   
> 196.10.226.0/24  196.10.227.0/24  196.10.230.0/24
>                 196.10.232.0/22  196.10.246.0/21  196.11.59.0/24   
> 196.11.60.0/24  196.11.61.0/24  196.11.91.0/24
>                 196.11.92.0/21  196.11.115.0/24  196.11.123.0/24   
> 196.11.198.0/24  196.11.199.0/24  196.11.208.0/24
>                 196.11.247.0/24  196.11.248.0/23  196.11.252.0/22   
> 196.13.114.0/24  196.13.120.0/24  196.13.127.0/24
>                 196.13.147.0/24  196.13.148.0/24  196.13.149.0/24   
> 196.13.162.0/24  196.13.166.0/23  196.13.168.0/24
>                 196.13.170.0/22  196.13.205.0/24  196.13.210.0/24   
> 196.13.211.0/23  196.13.218.0/23  196.13.221.0/24
>                 196.13.222.0/24  196.13.224.0/24  196.13.226.0/24   
> 196.13.227.0/24  196.13.233.0/24  196.13.239.0/24
>                 196.13.240.0/23  196.13.246.0/24  196.13.247.0/23   
> 196.13.249.0/24  196.13.251.0/24  196.15.64.0/18
>                 196.16.0.0/14  196.22.4.0/24  196.22.16.0/20   
> 196.22.128.0/24  196.22.129.0/24  196.28.0.0/22
>                 196.28.4.0/24  196.28.6.0/24  196.32.160.0/19   
> 196.32.200.0/21  196.32.216.0/21  196.43.128.0/18
>                 196.45.64.0/19  196.46.20.0/24  196.46.21.0/24   
> 196.46.80.0/20  196.46.118.0/23  196.200.192.0/20
>                 196.200.208.0/20  196.201.2.0/24  196.201.4.0/23   
> 196.207.48.0/20  196.207.128.0/22  196.207.132.0/23
>                 196.212.0.0/14  196.216.148.0/22  196.216.152.0/22   
> 196.216.163.0/24  196.216.164.0/22  196.216.171.0/24
>                 196.216.172.0/22  196.216.247.0/24  196.222.0.0/16   
> 196.223.0.0/24  196.223.1.0/24  196.223.2.0/24
>                 196.223.3.0/24  196.223.4.0/24  196.223.5.0/24   
> 196.223.6.0/24  196.223.7.0/24  196.223.8.0/23
>                 196.223.10.0/24  196.223.11.0/24
>
> Prefixes seen in the routing table
> (Exact match or more specifics)
> *****************************************************
> 1895 prefixes were seen in routing table with the following  
> distribution
>
> *                  1458 originated by AS in AfriNIC service region  
> (AS and number of prefixes originated)
>
>                 AS10474 (21)  AS10798 (22)  AS11157 (1)  AS11744  
> (1)  AS11845 (32)  AS12091 (2)  AS12258 (27)  AS12455 (14)
>                 AS13224 (1)  AS14988 (2)  AS15022 (2)  AS15399 (2)   
> AS15706 (34)  AS15825 (1)  AS16637 (21)  AS17148 (16)
>                 AS17400 (16)  AS19711 (1)  AS2018 (115)  AS20484  
> (12)  AS21280 (2)  AS21739 (1)  AS22355 (1)  AS22386 (2)
>                 AS22750 (3)  AS23058 (1)  AS23889 (29)  AS24835  
> (80)  AS24863 (169)  AS25250 (1)  AS25543 (5)  AS25818 (1)
>                 AS26625 (1)  AS27576 (8)  AS27598 (1)  AS28683 (1)   
> AS2905 (47)  AS29571 (20)  AS29918 (1)  AS29975 (21)
>                 AS30619 (24)  AS3067 (29)  AS30983 (1)  AS30984 (5)   
> AS30985 (3)  AS30986 (1)  AS30988 (15)  AS30989 (1)
>                 AS30990 (16)  AS30991 (8)  AS30998 (14)  AS31245  
> (5)  AS31810 (9)  AS31856 (4)  AS32717 (14)  AS32842 (1)
>                 AS32860 (1)  AS33567 (2)  AS33762 (3)  AS33763 (11)   
> AS33765 (4)  AS33766 (2)  AS33769 (1)  AS33770 (2)
>                 AS33771 (12)  AS33772 (3)  AS33774 (12)  AS33775  
> (5)  AS33776 (4)  AS33777 (10)  AS33778 (9)  AS33780 (6)
>                 AS33782 (1)  AS33785 (1)  AS33786 (7)  AS33788 (1)   
> AS33790 (8)  AS36864 (1)  AS36865 (5)  AS36866 (1)
>                 AS36867 (1)  AS36870 (3)  AS36873 (5)  AS36874 (3)   
> AS36877 (14)  AS36879 (1)  AS36881 (7)  AS36882 (4)
>                 AS36883 (3)  AS36884 (11)  AS36886 (4)  AS36887 (1)   
> AS36888 (4)  AS36889 (6)  AS36890 (5)  AS36891 (10)
>                 AS36892 (1)  AS36893 (1)  AS36897 (2)  AS36906 (3)   
> AS36913 (9)  AS36918 (1)  AS36919 (1)  AS36922 (5)
>                 AS36929 (1)  AS36931 (1)  AS36935 (1)  AS36937 (1)   
> AS36943 (22)  AS36944 (3)  AS36952 (1)  AS36953 (2)
>                 AS36959 (1)  AS36964 (1)  AS36971 (1)  AS36975 (1)   
> AS36978 (2)  AS36980 (1)  AS36995 (1)  AS36996 (3)
>                 AS37003 (2)  AS37004 (4)  AS37005 (1)  AS37009 (1)   
> AS37036 (1)  AS37045 (1)  AS37054 (15)  AS37058 (2)
>                 AS37062 (3)  AS37078 (1)  AS37084 (6)  AS37091 (1)   
> AS37132 (1)  AS37133 (2)  AS3741 (157)  AS5713 (58)
>                 AS5734 (1)  AS6187 (2)  AS6713 (39)  AS7420 (10)   
> AS8094 (2)
>
> *                  437 originated by AS not in AfriNIC service  
> region (AS and number of prefixes originated)
>
>                 AS10292 (2)  AS10396 (7)  AS11139 (8)  AS11300 (1)   
> AS11367 (30)  AS11868 (1)  AS11992 (7)  AS12392 (1)
>                 AS12440 (1)  AS12491 (2)  AS14217 (5)  AS14974 (2)   
> AS15808 (5)  AS16422 (8)  AS16726 (3)  AS17175 (11)
>                 AS18895 (17)  AS2047 (5)  AS21174 (8)  AS21491 (6)   
> AS22306 (8)  AS22351 (33)  AS22888 (1)  AS22917 (3)
>                 AS22999 (1)  AS23148 (1)  AS23456 (1)  AS24753 (5)   
> AS24890 (14)  AS25139 (1)  AS25152 (1)  AS25186 (1)
>                 AS25320 (6)  AS2534 (1)  AS25395 (1)  AS25429 (6)   
> AS25747 (2)  AS2609 (1)  AS26132 (1)  AS26452 (1)
>                 AS2647 (5)  AS26608 (1)  AS2697 (6)  AS27620 (2)   
> AS27681 (1)  AS2830 (1)  AS2856 (1)  AS29259 (1)
>                 AS29286 (5)  AS29465 (1)  AS30440 (1)  AS30689 (2)   
> AS30969 (14)  AS32745 (4)  AS3328 (2)  AS3356 (1)
>                 AS34444 (1)  AS3586 (10)  AS3790 (22)  AS38538 (1)   
> AS3855 (1)  AS39672 (1)  AS40398 (1)  AS41629 (1)
>                 AS4515 (3)  AS4637 (2)  AS5377 (1)  AS5400 (1)   
> AS5511 (2)  AS5639 (19)  AS6400 (4)  AS6412 (1)
>                 AS6453 (30)  AS703 (2)  AS7633 (32)  AS8220 (1)   
> AS8346 (4)  AS8376 (1)  AS8452 (17)  AS8513 (5)
>                 AS8668 (1)  AS8818 (1)  AS8841 (2)  AS8895 (1)   
> AS8928 (1)  AS9155 (1)
>
> Detail (http://airrs.afrinic.net/bgp/reports.html/bgp.reports.2010-02-01-196.0.0.0.html 
> )
>
> End of report
> AIRRS Website : http://www.afrinic.net/airrs/index.htm
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:52:56 +0100
> From: Phil Regnauld <regnauld at nsrc.org>
> To: Tarig Yassin Adam <tarig at suin.edu.sd>
> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [afnog] [NANOG] NREN Network Design
> Message-ID: <20100201195251.GF36830 at macbook.catpipe.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Tarig Yassin Adam (tarig) writes:
> > I'm try to redesign the Sudanese NREN (National Research & Education
> > Network). we provide end to end service,to our customers. Our  
> network
> > is build over local ISPs. But the problem of the current design that
> > each time we need to go back to the ISP to change our Infrastructure
> > IP addresses, when the situation need this.How can solve this? I  
> heard
> > about something called Virtual Network Environment which give us the
> > full control of ISP routers, is it the best solution? What about
> > others NRENs.Thanks
>
>                 Hello Tarig,
>
>                 (Cc:ed to AFNOG list)
>
>                 Can you be a bit more specific about your network  
> design ?
>                 As I understand it, you have multiple sites, which  
> can be connected
>                 to different ISPs.  As a result, your IP addressing  
> plan is dependent
>                 on the IPs that the local ISP will allocate to your  
> site/customer --
>                 is this correct ?
>
>                 I'm not sure what you call a Virtual Network  
> Environment, but I can
>                 think of several methods, depending on how much  
> control you have over
>                 the local site -- from using VPNs (Virtual Private  
> Network), or "tunnels"
>                 over the existing infrastructure, and deploy your  
> own IP addressing
>                 scheme over that, to applying to Afrinic to get your  
> own IP address
>                 block, etc...
>
>                 Any additional information you might have that would  
> help us in
>                 understanding your setup is welcome.
>
>                 Thanks,
>                 Phil Regnauld
>                 NSRC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:04:07 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tarig Yassin Adam <tarig at suin.edu.sd>
> To: Phil Regnauld <regnauld at nsrc.org>
> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [afnog] [NANOG] NREN Network Design
> Message-ID:
>                 <21655383.2226.1265079847877.JavaMail.root at mail.sustech.edu 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> hi phil
>
> We already applied to AfriNIC, they allocated to us /18 ipv4 we're  
> using two ISPs to connect to our customers and the same time we're  
> using these ISPs for the Internet.
>
> The ISP using tunnel layer 3. For customer sites to reach our NOC  
> they need next hop to the ISP routers which we do not have a control.
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> Eng. Tarig Yassin Adam
> Sudanese Universities' Information Network (SUIN)
> T:
> +249925659149
> E: tarig at sustech.edu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Regnauld <regnauld at nsrc.org>
> To: Tarig Yassin Adam <tarig at suin.edu.sd>
> Cc:<afnog at afnog.org>
> Date: Monday, February 1 2010 09:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [NANOG] NREN Network Design
> Tarig Yassin Adam (tarig) writes:
> > I'm try to redesign the Sudanese NREN (National Research & Education
> > Network). we provide end to end service,to our customers. Our  
> network
> > is build over local ISPs. But the problem of the current design that
> > each time we need to go back to the ISP to change our Infrastructure
> > IP addresses, when the situation need this.How can solve this? I  
> heard
> > about something called Virtual Network Environment which give us the
> > full control of ISP routers, is it the best solution? What about
> > others NRENs.Thanks
>
>    Hello Tarig,
>
>    (Cc:ed to AFNOG list)
>
>    Can you be a bit more specific about your network design ?
>    As I understand it, you have multiple sites, which can be connected
>    to different ISPs.  As a result, your IP addressing plan is  
> dependent
>    on the IPs that the local ISP will allocate to your site/customer  
> --
>    is this correct ?
>
>    I'm not sure what you call a Virtual Network Environment, but I can
>    think of several methods, depending on how much control you have  
> over
>    the local site -- from using VPNs (Virtual Private Network), or  
> "tunnels"
>    over the existing infrastructure, and deploy your own IP addressing
>    scheme over that, to applying to Afrinic to get your own IP address
>    block, etc...
>
>    Any additional information you might have that would help us in
>    understanding your setup is welcome.
>
>    Thanks,
>    Phil Regnauld
>    NSRC
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