[afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)

[Felix Alcantara]

Noah??? what the hell is that.
 
 
Félix Alcántara
1-(809)-854-9853
E-mail: speakz at speakz.org
Speakz @IRC

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De: Noah Sematimba [mailto:sematin at mtn.co.ug]
Enviado el: Lun 13/03/2006 12:12 p.m.
Para: Felix Alcantara
CC: Brian Candler; afnog at afnog.org; ntegeb at one2net.co.ug
Asunto: Re: [afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)





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On Monday 13 March 2006 18:43, Felix Alcantara wrote:
> Well as i hope you know BRIAN,
>
> theres is just a 5% of WORLDWIDE users that use a GUI IRC client, the other
> percents use MIRC or Xchat as IRC client, and the other tell me why you say
> our customer base may not be suitable for Badru??? and is true if he want
> he ask me for pay all he want, but what he will do if he loose this
> opportunity of gain customers with this.
>
> Is true about what you say that IRC bring little DDOS sometimes, but why if
> this companys are doing this: Banetele, Business Internet Trends
> <http://www.bit.nl>  , http://www.carpathiahost.com/, http://www.carnet.hr/
> , http://www.eunet.fi/ , http://www.easynews.com/ , http://www.euronet.nl/
> , http://www.fluent.ltd.uk/ , http://www.kewlio.net/ ,
> http://www.scarlet-internet.nl/ , http://www.teleglobe.net/ ,
> http://www.rdsnet.ro/ , http://www.tu-graz.ac.at/ , http://www.xs4all.nl/
> and others. Im sure they are taking what they need from there, and are not
> loosing nothing for sponsor a server.
>
> Badru is up to you the desicion about my proposal,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Félix Alcántara
> 1-(809)-854-9853
> E-mail: speakz at speakz.org
> Speakz @IRC
>
> ________________________________
>
> De: afnog-bounces at afnog.org en nombre de Brian Candler
> Enviado el: Lun 13/03/2006 11:08 a.m.
> Para: Badru Ntege
> CC: afnog at afnog.org
> Asunto: Re: [afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:50:27PM +0300, Badru Ntege wrote:
> >    any learned comment on this posting should one send to the trash bin
> >    or should it be considered.
>
> The guy is asking for:
>
> * free bandwidth, power and hosting
> * permission to run a service which is notoriously prone to attracting DoS
>   attacks
>
> In return, you are permitted to show one advertisement to each of *his*
> customers when they connect. If they connect with a GUI IRC client, they
> might not even see this. Furthermore, his customer base may not be suitable
> targets for your marketing.
>
> If it were me, I'd make him pay for colo and bandwidth just like any other
> customer; if he has a viable business model then he can find the money for
> that. Even if I took him on as a fully paying customer, I'd still be
> concerned about monitoring his IRC activities and the extra workload that
> fending off DoS is likely to give you.
>
> Feel free to subsidise his business if you wish, but I personally can't see
> a particularly good reason to do so. Perhaps if you already have a large
> local base of IRC users, who are using some distant IRC server, they might
> benefit from having a local one. But equally you might find that most of
> your customers are using MSN, AIM, Yahoo etc, in which case there's no
> point.
>
> Here's another way to think about it: if one of your competitors took him
> up on his offer, would this be detrimental to your own business?
>
> And another: if you took the cost of supplying him with bandwidth, colo and
> management and treat it as a recurring marketing expense, could you find
> more effective ways to spend that marketing money locally?
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian.
>
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