[afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)

[Felix Alcantara]

Well as i hope you know BRIAN,
 
theres is just a 5% of WORLDWIDE users that use a GUI IRC client, the other percents use MIRC or Xchat as IRC client, and the other tell me why you say our customer base may not be suitable for Badru??? and is true if he want he ask me for pay all he want, but what he will do if he loose this opportunity of gain customers with this.
 
Is true about what you say that IRC bring little DDOS sometimes, but why if this companys are doing this: Banetele, Business Internet Trends <http://www.bit.nl>  , http://www.carpathiahost.com/, http://www.carnet.hr/ , http://www.eunet.fi/ , http://www.easynews.com/ , http://www.euronet.nl/ , http://www.fluent.ltd.uk/ , http://www.kewlio.net/ , http://www.scarlet-internet.nl/ , http://www.teleglobe.net/ , http://www.rdsnet.ro/ , http://www.tu-graz.ac.at/ , http://www.xs4all.nl/ and others. Im sure they are taking what they need from there, and are not loosing nothing for sponsor a server.
 
Badru is up to you the desicion about my proposal,
 
Thanks,

Félix Alcántara
1-(809)-854-9853
E-mail: speakz at speakz.org
Speakz @IRC

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De: afnog-bounces at afnog.org en nombre de Brian Candler
Enviado el: Lun 13/03/2006 11:08 a.m.
Para: Badru Ntege
CC: afnog at afnog.org
Asunto: Re: [afnog] Sponsor Proposal (Read)



On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:50:27PM +0300, Badru Ntege wrote:
>    any learned comment on this posting should one send to the trash bin
>    or should it be considered.

The guy is asking for:

* free bandwidth, power and hosting
* permission to run a service which is notoriously prone to attracting DoS
  attacks

In return, you are permitted to show one advertisement to each of *his*
customers when they connect. If they connect with a GUI IRC client, they
might not even see this. Furthermore, his customer base may not be suitable
targets for your marketing.

If it were me, I'd make him pay for colo and bandwidth just like any other
customer; if he has a viable business model then he can find the money for
that. Even if I took him on as a fully paying customer, I'd still be
concerned about monitoring his IRC activities and the extra workload that
fending off DoS is likely to give you.

Feel free to subsidise his business if you wish, but I personally can't see
a particularly good reason to do so. Perhaps if you already have a large
local base of IRC users, who are using some distant IRC server, they might
benefit from having a local one. But equally you might find that most of
your customers are using MSN, AIM, Yahoo etc, in which case there's no
point.

Here's another way to think about it: if one of your competitors took him up
on his offer, would this be detrimental to your own business?

And another: if you took the cost of supplying him with bandwidth, colo and
management and treat it as a recurring marketing expense, could you find
more effective ways to spend that marketing money locally?

Regards,

Brian.

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