Fwd: [afnog] Re: Request for input: The WorkingGrouponInternetGovernance

[Alan Levin]

Hi,

Very nicely put, is this the kiss you were looking for Badru?

my 2c...

In my past decade of experiences working with the people that 
participate in this policy making activity:
some are often under-qualified and do it as part of 'the job',
some are often passionate and do it because they want to and they care 
to.

I do not mean that the former do not care about their career, the 
concern is that their organisation may come before the open knowledge 
and sharing intentions of the latter. There can be a good mix, the 
concern I have is that only some are 'invited' to the ITU decision 
making, anyone on this list can be involved in ICANN (and related RIR 
and tld) decision making just if they want to.

Sincerely,

Alan


Begin forwarded message:

> From: americo at imit.kth.se
> Date: 18 November 2004 23:11:59 GMT+02:00
> To: Robert.Shaw at itu.int
> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: RE: FW: [afnog] Re: Request for input: The      
> WorkingGrouponInternetGovernance
>
> I think regulators should regulate services and not technology. 
> Second, so
> far many telco's have proved to be incapable of understanding the
> technology behind Internet. Many of them were still very satisfied with
> the income they were getting from voice services. Now that they 
> understand
> that there's a really threat that Internet will also eat that revenue, 
> and
> Skype is already proving that, they start building coalitions to rule
> internet just as they did rule the telephony in the last 200 years, and
> ITU seems to be willing to assist them in this process. Personally I 
> think
> that telcos should continue in their business of building fast roads 
> for
> Internet traffic. If they want to ride in the same road they are 
> welcome
> but should not ditacte how we drive in that road.
>
> As Bill asserted I am Mozambican and not Swedish. If I were using
> traditional telephony domain, I would have +258 :-). And I can add in 
> the
> case of Mozambique that despite ITU recommendations, I will never, ever
> suggest the Government of Mozambique to give the steering wheel to MZ
> telco to drive the internet.
>
> a./
>
>
>> huh? who said that? why do you think we have independent
>> regulators (like PTS in Sweden) - they're the ones who need
>> to look after/manage competition in the market. ISPs are not a cottage
> industry anymore (Bredbandsbolaget entering TeliaSonera's fixed line
> market in your home country being one fine example)... And there is
> ample empirical evidence that calling yourself an ISP doesn't magically
> prevent you from exercising egregious market behaviour. That's why we
> have regulators and concepts (at least in the EU) of things like SMP.
>>
>> --RS
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: afnog-bounces at afnog.org
>>> [mailto:afnog-bounces at afnog.org]On Behalf
>>> Of americo at imit.kth.se
>>> Sent: 18 November 2004 18:24
>>> To: Begumisa Gerald M
>>> Cc: afnog at afnog.org
>>> Subject: Re: FW: [afnog] Re: Request for input: The Working
>>> GrouponInternetGovernance
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it would be a pathetic idea for ITU or even
>>> Governments to think
>>> that telco's are the best entities to manage Internet. If
>>> Telcos finally
>>> realise the importance of Internet, then they should
>>> participate just like
>>> any ordinary ISP, perhaps using their immense capital power to gain a
> market share under normal comptetition laws.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a./
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